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"What do you think I did?! I didn't do anything...!"

I support the Platinum Dunes' Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) reboot, and let me tell you why: The original film, the first Nightmare on Elm Street (1984), is near perfect — that is, until the last five minutes! The production ran out of money and creator-writer-director Wes Craven couldn't film the original climax in the script, so he had to slap something together and we got the infamous car scene. This ending made no sense in the context of the story and came completely out of left-field — it was a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment — where it just ends abruptly, with little to no explanation, leaving the audience scratching their head in complete confusion! Nevertheless, every kid remembers being scared to death by Freddy Krueger after watching it! I find that people have forgotten that the first film was actually a serious, cerebral "mind fuck" of a horror film that straddled between psychological terror and splatter/slasher, which made it fresh and new — and Freddy was originally a serious monster that was, in fact, a child molester and serial murderer. Subsequently, five sequels went by, one by one, over the span of a decade, which spiraled down in quality each time, focusing more on cheesy comedy and moving further and further away from the scariness and intelligence of the original. It turned Freddy into an icon, but with great sacrifice: The character had evolved into a "clown" and the films just became a joke! Little kids started running around with Freddy gloves (which is really messed up when you think about it)! And this is when Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) came in...

Just when I thought the franchise had ran its course and Freddy could do no more, the seventh film New Nightmare blew me away! Wes Craven returned to the series after years of avoidance, with a bigger budget and more freedom, and he went out to "remake" the original 1984 film the way it was meant to be, but still transform it into something new and completely original. The film takes the phrase "art imitating life" to a whole new meaning; it ran like a reality show (before they became popular) and a behind-the-scenes documentary in one, where the cast of the first film (now ten years older), including its crew and executives, are playing themselves in a pseudoistic real-life setting! New Nightmare brought the character of Freddy Krueger back to what Wes Craven originally intended him to be, back to his original child molester-murderer roots — the personification of evil! He was darker, sicker, scarier, more menacing than ever before, and I was happy beyond all belief! Freddy Krueger has finally earned back his claws! And it brought back the original ending of the first film, with action and emotions and closure! New Nightmare was a praised by critics, but was box office failure. Audiences just didn't like it, which was a damn shame; and, I feel, there were two main reasons behind this: (1) The Nightmare franchise is a series primarily remembered by its sequels. We were introduced to Freddy during the original film, primarily as kids who shouldn’t have been watching it in the first place and, for a solid decade, we watched the sequels, primarily as teenagers! Audiences were used to and were expecting "Freddy the Clown." This was "recon" before it existed! Nobody fuckin' expected that! They didn’t want to be scared; they wanted to laugh! There's a hypocrisy to this that just blows my mind! (2) Up to this point, nobody had ever seen a film like this! Nothing like this had never been done! It was too original, too self-aware, too ahead of its time. It didn't just push down the fourth wall, it shattered it — it was too real too soon! And a few years later, what happens? Wes Craven moved to Dimension Films and churned out Scream (1996), which was a blender re-packaging of New Nightmare, and it became an international blockbuster — what bullshit! And you know what's worse? The next film was Freddy vs. Jason, which brought back the "clown" and I was pissed beyond belief!

Now, don't get me wrong, I love Robert Englund and I always will. Jackie Earle Haley isn't Robert Englund, he will never be Robert Englund, and he's not even trying to be: Jackie is going to be Jackie! Freddy hasn't never truly been done the way he was suppose to be, and the film itself has never truly been done the way it was suppose to be! But if there's a franchise that needs to be rebooted/re-conned/remade/revitalized, it's Nightmare on Elm Street! And we're getting the 2010 Platinum Dunes remake, with Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy — and whether or not the film does well, we, at least, got Freddy back to his roots! No more jokes! No more clowns! He's a serial killer again! He's a child molester again! He's a rapist again! He's not a character you're suppose to like! He is the ultimate monster! He is the ultimate badass! The remake should not be compared to the original films. It's a different film entirely and should be judged as a completely different animal...

I saw the film opening weekend and I loved the film! I've seen it six times to date. This remake was just classy! When was the last time you saw a classy horror, let alone a classy film in general? Next to Wes Craven's New Nightmare, the 2010 remake is the perfect Nightmare film. The story flows great, the acting is wonderful, the cinematography is gorgeous, the editing is nice, the dialogue is quite good. There's no sex, no nudity, the blood and gore is minimal, and the swearing is tasteful. They took subject matter that was vile, child abuse and molestation, and executed it with sophistication. It even have animal cruelty; animals never die in films and children are rarely ever in danger in films! Jackie Earle Haley's Freddy Krueger was chilling and orgasmic! I didn't know whether to be creeped out by him or turned on by him... The practical effects were excellent. The CGI was, unfortunately, unspectacular and were the only true flaw of the film, but I'm a animator, so I'm trained to see those things. Nonetheless, they were effective and that's what counts in the end. (Hollywood forgets that CGI should assist the film, not be bogged down by it.) The film, also, didn't hold back:  It took risks and it was smart and classy! I loved that they used "what you see in your mind is far worse than what you see on screen" tactic and far more terrifying. There was nothing superfluous about the film. Definitely one of the best films (particularly for a remake) I've seen in a long, long time! If you haven't seen it, watch it! I recommend the film to horror and non-horror fans alike! ;p

As for the stamp, well, one of my all-time favourite parts of the film are the flashbacks to pre-burned Freddy — grrrr, Jackie, why did you have to make him sexy?! Even from the scant seconds we receive from the trailer, you can just see that The Fire Scene was epic — the emotion just fills the screen! Check out my other Freddy stamp, "Freddy's Coming For You", which I recently posted.
Promotions of the Film:
- Trailer #1
- Trailer #2
- Trailer #3
- Behind-the-scenes featurette
- An "adorkable" interview with Jackie Earle Haley
- A fantastic visit to the film set
Clips from the Film (which excited me to no end!):
- Clip #1
- Clip #2 (Gorgeous!)
- Clip #3 (Eee!)
- Clip #4
(If you are going to post this stamp, please +fav. It would be most appreciated it! To place this on your journal or a shoutboard, if you are a DA subscriber, copy and paste the following code:  :thumb157497474:)



Medium - Photoshop, Jasc Animation Shop.

A Nightmare on Elm Street © Wes Craven/Platinum Dunes/New Line Cinema.
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GeekGemLadiesman11 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Sorr(Did that on purpose.) for spam but I'm so surprised when I said Jackie in his pre bruned Freddy form some what looked like Jim Carry or something to me like what the crud? XD I mean yeah hope that doesn't happen again.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013  Professional Filmographer
LOL! That's fine. He DID look a bit like Jim Carrey, I admit, and you're not the only one who has mentioned that. :XD:
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GeekGemLadiesman11 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Wow thanks for agreeing with me I guess. XD
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Well, the point is that Freddy looked very "normal." He even acted very "normal." But that's why it's so unsettling. You could talk to this man, drink with him, laugh with him, and be his friend, and never know the monster that lied inside him, that he would do this to children, YOUR children, and that he could fool you in such a way. Looking back, you can't help but ask yourself, where there signs? Were there little red flags that denoted this? Were there triggers? Was there anything suspicious in his behaviour, or what he said, or what he did, that would have warned you and could have saved them? Could it have been prevented? It's something many parents ask themselves, particularly after it happened. Looks are always deceiving.
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GeekGemLadiesman11 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Wow that to me I guess is pretty evil about the guy. Just really that amazes me there. ^^ Just what you said made me think much more about well Fred.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Think about real-life serial killers: Ted Bundy was the guy-next-door, suicide hotline man, the law student, the young Republican, but was also a serial rapist-murderer of some thirty-plus women (although, the actual number may have been well over fifty). Jeffrey Dahmer was this skinny, shy nerd that worked at a chocolate factory, yet killed and cannibalized over a dozen people. Ed Gein was an unassuming farm-handler, the fix-it guy who mended your door, the mama's boy, yet was also a necrophiliac who made lampshades out of human skin. John Wayne Gacy was the guy dressed as a clown for birthday parties, married with stepchildren, and yet had half-dozen corpses rotting under his house. How well to you REALLY know people? The worst type of criminal is one who can give all the appearance of "normalcy" and you'd never know about the "monster" underneath.
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GeekGemLadiesman11 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Ed Gein and John Wayne Gacy I know of them and their crimes as well. Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer not really but dang. And suicide hotline man?

Quite interesting which actually makes it scary of some kind. But yes still scary.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Bundy saved lives on the hotline, too. Of course, he may ended up torturing, raping, and killing one or two of them as well; however, even the police aren't exactly sure. He confessed to 30 killings, but exact total is likely much, much higher, perhaps double or triple the amount.
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ellib33 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I truly adore this actor :)
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I'm a big Jackie Earle Haley fan! Definitely check out the following galleries:

Watchmen: [link] , [link]
Nightmare on Elm Street: [link]
Human Target: [link]
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ellib33 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my god thank you so much for those links I admired many of those pics! and faved them... :D Thank youu :worship:
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I'd love to hear your opinions and comments on my "Innocent Demon" story.
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xXDeathyXx Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
SO awesome!
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Thanks!
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xXDeathyXx Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No Problem
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ExcelsiorRedNose Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So sexy. I feel like I'm cheating on my boyfriend with Freddy Krueger....... he doesn't have to know >.>
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Only in your dreams, my friend. ;p
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ExcelsiorRedNose Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I see what you did there!
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
(halo ping over her head)
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ExcelsiorRedNose Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I hope you like the rest of my Nightmare on Elm Street works here, particularly "Innocent Demon" story. Love to hear any opinions and comments on it: [link]
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ExcelsiorRedNose Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've seen pictures but I shall investigate! *grabs monocle and hat*
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Do tell me what you think.
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joy1411 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011
Mlle-Relda all you have to do is dream about him or Dave, or Kelly, or maybe Rorschanch hmm?

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Strange dream over and over Soul eater ep 12
Fuckin A Alice from Dream Master
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011  Professional Filmographer
For me, all the above. Plus Guerrero.
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SpiritOfFire117 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2011
I agree with everything you said. I still can't figure out why alot of people hated the reboot. As some one that just started watching the original movies along with this newer one, I can't see how one can love one movie and absolutely despise the other. I hope they continue the series and have them get gradually get better. :)
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2011  Professional Filmographer
I agree. I really enjoyed the film and, as remakes go, it's actually a decent film. I think the sequel, if they ever make one, will be much better; it has so much potential.
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JackTheRipper145 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2011
As I said in one of my other favorite comments this is one of my favorite scenes, thank you so much for showing it! The scene was scary but had something to it that almost maid me feel bad for freddy
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Agreed. I felt very bad for Freddy in this scene and I love how ambiguous this scene is. That you're not sure IF he was really guilty for his crime or not.
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peppicatred Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011
*cries* bring back robert englund :(
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Understand that Robert Englund doesn't want to come back. He gave Jackie Earle Haley his blessing to continue the legacy.
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peppicatred Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011
i think one of the main reasons he doesnt want to come back is that he is too old to play the part anymore.

Im a fan of the originals and allways will be. but yeah, they cant use the same actor forever.

im pretty sure englund is still doing the odd convention every now and again,
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Yes, one reason is because Englund is too old for the part. The role requires a lot of energy and running about, doing take after take, which he can't really do anymore. Englund also has some back problems due to his age, which also is another factor. Also, his skin suffered a great deal over the twenty years doing the role that the makeup RIPS the top layers of flesh. Also, he simply wants to pursue other roles and other challenges, like any actor would, and I welcome that. I enjoy his other roles immensely and I hope he continues a good, long acting career outside Freddy.

When the casting call came for the new Freddy, I didn't expect much. I didn't want a complete unknown but I didn't want anyone exceedingly famous either. Jackie Earle Haley I think was a GREAT choice. I don't think I would have ACCEPTED any other actor to take this role other than him because I knew he would make it wonderful, whether or not it was a good or bad script.

I'm a fan of the original films, too. I go into a LONG conversation about them in the artist's comments here. The problem is that Freddy went from monster to clown over the decades and that was never the original intention of the character. The character Wes Craven wanted was the personification of evil -- child molester, child killer, destroyer of innocence, insatiable, sadistic, and completely unapologetic. I wanted Freddy to scare me again and he did with Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994). It's my favourite Nightmare film to date. A return to the original roots and hoped it was going to continue in this direction, bring back the terror of the character and, as a result, I was enraged when the comedy returned in Freddy vs. Jason a few years later. That was the nail on the coffin. I'm glad they went back to the 1984 and 1994 variation of Freddy with the 2010 reboot. Out of all the remakes out there, this was a relatively GOOD film. It's not great, but it's a start and I have high expectations for the franchise to continue in this new direction.

Robert Englund is actually coming to a local convention in my area, Texas Frightmare Weekend. This will be my second time meeting him and I can't wait to go!
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peppicatred Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011
your lucky. and yes your right in about 4 of the movies englund/freddy is scary, but the others are kinda silly. and yet i still like em.

Make sure you post a photo of you and englund when u go :D
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011  Professional Filmographer
The order of my favourite Nightmare films start off as: 1994 New Nightmare, 2010 reboot, 1984 original film, Dream Warriors, "No More Mr. Nice Guy" from Freddy's Nightmares TV series, Freddy's Dead (which is considered the worst, but I enjoy it all the same because I'm fascinated by his backstory; the original script was better), Dream Child (great concept, bad execution), Freddy vs. Jason (this is only higher up because of the first three minutes of the film and the fact that nearly went into a fist fight against Jason fans in the theatre at the premiere), Dream Master, and Freddy's Revenge (gay Freddy, noooooooo!).

I seriously doubt I can afford a photo with him. Photos are separate. It's about $50 for his autograph and $50 more to get a photo with him. Can't afford that. There's also many other stars there this year, such as Roger Corman (Eeeee!), Cary Elwes, Jill Scholen, etc.
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peppicatred Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2011
*cries* bring back robert englund :(
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NancyThompsonOfElmSt Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010
"Oh my God it's so hot in here...QUICKLY...I must take this jacket off and reveal the iconic sweater!" <-What I think of every time....;P

I certainly disagree with you on pretty much all of your comments about the remake, but hey...opinions can co-exist in the world.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010  Professional Filmographer
I enjoyed the remake, personally. Was it flawed? Yes. Could it have been better? Yes. Was it entertaining? Yes. But that's just my view.
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NancyThompsonOfElmSt Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010
Oh I agree with you in all of that. I enjoyed it too, and I like it more every time I watch it...but...I'm just sayin, the opinions extend far beyond the internet.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Then what did you disagree with?
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NancyThompsonOfElmSt Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010
My mistake...I didn't check the original comment you were responding to. My response was to internet hating for the film(which I believe was for another photo).

Well, what I have heard about the original car scene is not about the money....it's about Bob Shaye wanting to leave the ending open for a sequel, while Craven wanted a closure ending but didn't get it.

And things I disliked about the remake:
-Nancy Holbrook: She was a neat character, but was certainly not a heroine(maybe for like 5 seconds).
-Freddy was boring: I enjoyed JEH as Freddy but he was boring to me. His vocal tone barely changed, and he smiled like...twice. I believe that's what made him so dark.
-Lack of mystery: PD practically explained everything. I would have liked more mystery.
-Recycled stuff: A lot of stuff in the film didn't seem like it fit, or was just thrown in because it was in the original. And a lot of stuff was taken from the original series(I know it's a remake...but a lot of stuff was unnecessary, like the bathtub scene...practically shot for shot).
-Lack of dream elements(including Jackie's make-up): There wasn't enough creativity...not enough use of the limitless nightmares. It seems PD concentrated to much on "realism". Which brings me to Jackie's make-up. Sure it looks real, but he looks more like a surviving burn victim who got skin graphs. Freddy's make-up should have been exaggerated(once again...nightmare element).

Lastly, I certainly cheered for Freddy in this movie....just as I always have. I didn't despise him for who he was. I know many people feel the same way.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2011  Professional Filmographer
First off, I want to thank you for this long response. I finally have some time to answer it and I apologize that it took this long:

The Car Scene: I hate this is. No manner how much I love the original film, the final scene always pisses me off. I understand it's a dream. Nancy made amends that Freddy was not real and couldn't hurt her, then whiteness and birds chirping, then striped car, screaming, pull drunk mom through the window, the end. What? What?! The original ending can be read in the original 1984 script, where Nancy goes back to find her mother who vapourized into the bed. They had (1) no money to film it (2) and it was originally Freddy was going to die, thus have no room for a sequel. Therefore, Wes Craven adapted the original ending, the great battle between Freddy and Nancy for the fate of a loved one ten years later in Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

Nancy Holbrook: However, I personally think Rooney Mara who played Nancy did a great job. She didn't have the "tough-as-nails bitchness" of Heather Langenkamp, true, instead she went for subtlety. All the teenagers all have a "pieces missing" inside. Nancy, as Freddy's favourite, is meant to be "dead" in the inside; all the joy of life and spirit was ripped from her. She could take more guff and abuse than the rest of them; it took more for the walls she hide behind to break down. Her emotions weren't attached to her sleeve, like Langenkamp's; it was all giant internal battle she went through and she showed great inner strength. She didn't technically crack until the very, very end -- and because of this, I see Rooney Mara's Nancy as a stronger character. Also, have you seen the alternate ending? FAR SUPERIOUR to the theatrical ending and it really showed off Nancy's ballsiness. Now, I enjoy both Nancys for completely different reasons, just as I enjoy both Freddys for different reasons as well.

Freddy Was Boring: Is this because he didn't have enough screentime? Or are you speaking about his performance? Because I'll defend either question. He didn't have enough screentime because he's not the main character; Nancy and Quentin are. They are the heroes, he is the villain. Enough said there. His performance I loved; I had no problem with this performance. I had more of a problem of how he was misused: The film was the boo scares and THAT, I know for a fact, wasn't the original intention. Looking at the behind-the-scenes stuff and the original script for the remake, there were all these wonderful, wonderful scenes that were cut out. I remember jumping at him looking at you behind the boxes in the attic; that made me jump and audibly yelp! I want the Dirt Room Scene back, I want the Church Scene back, I would love the Making of the Glove Scene to appear, I desperately want the Pied Piper Scene back; they filmed ALLLLL these scenes, but none of them appeared it to the final product. It pisses me off because I think the film suffered greatly because of the editing.

Recycled Stuff: I didn't mind the recycled scenes. Understand that my favourite film of the franchise is, by all accounts of technicality, a remake -- Wes Craven's New Nightmare. That film had recycled scenes, too, but it was a slightly different take for each one. I had no problem with the Ceiling Death; the best Ceiling Death is, hands down, the 1994 film which beat the 1984 film. I loved that it was ONE slice because that's all you need. The part where Kris spins and her feet hit the ceiling, that made me cringe. I thought the Mother's Death was better the remake than the 1984 film, as was the Bodybag Scene. The scene I hated was the Wall Scene and it wasn't because of its place in the film; it's because I'm an animator and I see all the flaws and that was BADDDDD even to a layman; it's the worst special effect in the movie. If they did it as practical effect or did it right; it would have awesome!

Lack of dream elements: Again, it's the editing, which I think happened because of some random guy in a test audience giggled at an inappropriate part. If they kept it to the original intent, trust me, you wouldn't make this complaint.

Jackie's Make-Up: I admit it took me MONTHS to get used to the makeup just from promotional pictures. I like that they made him look like an actual burn victim, but I would like more MUSCLES peeking out than just hollow skin on hollow skin.

Rooting for Freddy: Honestly, as much as I love Freddy and loved Haley's Freddy for that matter, I did want Nancy to kick his ass (and I didn't want Quentin to die)! I was rooting for her first and Freddy second.
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The car scene: I completely understand the whole ending, after all...I am an ANOES buff. It is slightly confusing...but it's eerie. It's creepy. It's too happy after something so horrific. It's not the best ending, but neither was the remake. Though I do love pulling Gwen through the mirror.

Nancy Holbrook: Being such a huge Nancy Thompson fan, I can certainly argue how much stronger Nancy Thompson is than Nancy Holbrook. I don't care if she was supposed to be ripped apart on the inside...and it was all personal turmoil, I know people with personal turmoil that have more personality than Holbrook. Her snap at the end wasn't even much of a snap. Sure the alternate ending ROCKS, but Nancy is just pissed. And I wouldn't say that's strength. Nancy Thompson certainly had strength...and she faced Krueger by herself. She wanted Glen there so they could both take him down, but he never came and she kicked butt alone. Which, I think, takes more strength than going around with one's boyfriend. Also, I feel Rooney could have done a MUCH better job than she did. Sure she did a good job, but she bored me. Rape or no rape, I know molestation victims that aren't hollow. I predict Nancy Holbrook's "Emo"-like ways were an attempt at making the film seem darker. Darker personalities, more sadness= a darker film. Nancy Holbrook may have been Krueger's favorite...but that's because of her past with him. She was his favorite to molest. Nancy Thompson, on the other hand, was intimidating to Krueger because of her strength...that is why she became Krueger's archnemesis. And that certainly says something.

Freddy being boring: Jackie's physicality was stiff. His facial expressions never truly changed...his voice was pretty much an alteration of talking/yelling. Not much else. I felt it was, standard.

Recycled: I understand the recycled parts in New Nightmare with what Craven was trying to create. He wanted to parallel Nancy and Heather...because Heather was taking on the role of Nancy "one last time". Tina's death from ANOES 1984 is on the top list of best horror scenes for a reason(I watched a special on it. It made #17). As for the body bag scene, I wouldn't call it much of a scene. She had more blood. The end. It seemed thrown in there. Tina's was much more haunting because Nancy and Tina were best friends. Kris and Holbrook were not.

Make-up: He still looks more like a healing burn victim than a man who was fully BURNED TO DEATH. Krueger's 1984 make-up was also inspired by burn victims...as stated in Never Sleep Again. The make-up wasn't exaggerated enough for me. Krueger is supposed to be larger than life. Have that dream element. Robert didn't like the make-up either...he thought it took away that crucial element as well.

Rooting for Freddy: That's nice. I rooted for Freddy because Jackie was my favorite out of the film. I tried, I really did, to root for Nancy...but she was so...Kristen Stewart like that I just found nothing to root for.
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princedirk Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do not see at all how the "car scene" is a big lipped alligator moment.

I saw the first one (and my first Freddy movie at all) a couple months ago and the ending to me went like this: bitch thinks she can fight Freddy by recognizing the dream is a dream. After creeping the audience out by it being back-to-normal (which in and of itself is cheesy if that's how they kept it) but then you realize no, Freddy was just strining her along a little bit longer. Him being a car never felt big-lipped either. He's in a dream, he can do what he wants to scare the Hell outta you.

Not to mention him driving off implies he's going to kill her. Obviously, that never happened. Either she lived, or he let her live. But he does feed off fear and she IS a scream queen, so...
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010  Professional Filmographer
There was no foreshadowing of the car. There was no insinuation that Glen had one. The car came out of nowhere. Also, Nancy had supposedly "defeated" Freddy, turning into a glowing cloud, and walked out...where? So he was defeated and then he came back, out of the blue? The original ending the script called for to return into Freddy's dreamworld and murder him, but they didn't have the funding to complete that, so they slapped together the car scene ending.

Yes, it was a dream, but it didn't say how she got out of it, if she ever got out of it. She must have to return in the third film.
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princedirk Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a dream, anything can happen. What part of that do you not understand?
She also was never implied to have defeated him. When I saw the movie it more gave the impression she thinks she has defeated him, only to realize he's still screwing around with her. Obviously she does later escape for the sequels, however.

Just because they didn't have the funding to complete that ending (which I'm aware of) doesn't mean the new one isn't canon nor does that make it not make sense. I think it makes perfect sense.

It doesn't have to explain how she got out. Viewers do not have to be spoonfed every little thing. He feeds off of fear and as I said she's uh, a scream queen. Oh ho ho~.
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2011  Professional Filmographer
First off, I want to thank you for this long response. I finally have some time to answer it and I apologize that it took this long:

As I said, I hate the Car Scene. No manner how much I love the original film, the final scene always pisses me off. I understand it's a dream. Nancy made amends that Freddy was not real and couldn't hurt her, then he appears, whiteness and birds chirping, then striped car, screaming, pull drunk mom through the window, the end. What? What?! What the hell happened?!

The original ending can be read in the 1984 script, where Nancy goes back to find her mother who vapourized into the bed previously. They had (1) no money to film it (2) and it was originally Freddy was going to die, thus have no room for a sequel. Therefore, Wes Craven adapted the original ending, the great battle between Freddy and Nancy for the fate of a loved one ten years later in Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

The Car Scene, in itself, was superfluous. They SHOULD explain how she got out, how he's not dead, how she returned in the third film. I demand it! It wasn't satisfying, at all! No matter what the ending of the story is, no manner the genre or of what medium, should always, always be satisfying and it didn't deliver.

With that, I enjoyed the ending of the remake. I thought it was a far superiour ending, but that's my opinion.
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princedirk Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What ammends? You can say something is not real, but if it's real...it's real. I can make "amends" and say my dog is not real, but that doesn't make it suddenly nonexistent.

I repeat, just because they did not have the funding to make the ending they wanted, does not mean what is there is how it is.

How WOULD Freddy be dead? Because Nancy threw a hissy fit? Wat.

They don't have to "explain" things to be good. Do they explain how he's alive in the remake? Or Jason's remake? No. Are they still good movies? Yes!
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tranimation-art Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2011  Professional Filmographer
For me, it boils down to a satisfying ending. Yes, you tag it with a surprise; many horror films do. The executed differed so much. My reaction to the original ending was just "Yes, yes, uh, what, WHAT JUST HAPPENED?!" While my remake I went "Yes, yes, nice, awwww, AHHHHHH!" But this is just me. I prefer the ending the remake because it satisfied me far better for me and I think it worked before.

Now, other scenes work better in the original, a few in the remake, some in Wes Craven's New Nightmare. It's an opinion, nothing more.
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princedirk Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"WHAT JUST HAPPENED" is a common tactic in things, though. And for good reason.

And don't get me wrong, the remake is totes my favorite. I recently watched it with my boyfriend and we loved it, we loved an actually scary Freddy.

As for New Nightmare I honestly...can't take ANY scene from ANY of the originals seriously. Do I love the originals? Yeah! But are they scary or can I take them seriously? No and no.
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